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  • Sat, Jun 29 2013 12:35 AM

    • planetfiber
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    XDCAM and HDV project

    Hi guys and gals,

    I have done quite a lot of research on this and, although a path has been signaled, I would like the opinion of you experts on the expected finish line.

    The background:

    We started a documentary  project loooong ago, shooting with a Sony HVR-Z7U, set on 24 pscan  - that is, 24 progressive scan with pull-down, giving 29.97 master clips. The project then was going straight to television, so although we wanted the 24p look, we didn't need it to be at 24 frames (23.98 actually). Or so we thought.

    The middle ground:

    The project grew and some additional funding came aboard, which allowed us to buy a nicer camera. For the type of documentary style we do, we bought the Sony PMW-200. But, this XDCam Camera only shoots either 23.98 or 29.97. It doesn't do "29.97 with a 24p look". So to mantain the look of the doc, we have shot all the new material at 23.98.

    The ground we stand:

    Editing. Through our research and thanks to the avid system, the avid forums, and many people out there, we concluded that the best way to edit this feature was:

    1.- To continue with the 29.97 project where we had uploaded the first shots and edited the trailer with (1080i/59.94)

    2.- To open a new project for the XDCam clips, a 1080p/23.976 project, import the cards through AMA and consolidate.

    3.- To open the bins of the 23.976 project into the 29.97 project and do all the editing there.

     

    The forseen ground:

    And what then? Through our tests it shows that avid doesn't do a proper pull-down on export. So when we are ready to go to post production, in your experience, having this mixed frame rate sequence, what would be the correct path? We're going to finish in 29.97.

     

    We're on Avid 6.5 (could upgrade to 7 if needed) on a Mac Pro Quad Core 2.66, 16 Gb Ram.

     

    Thank you in advance for all your help, all you gurus out there!!

    Cheers,

    Rafael

     

     

     

    Mac Pro Quad Core 2.66 Ghz, 16 Gb Ram, Avid Media Composer 6.5.2 iMac 27"13,2, 16 Gb Ram, Avid Media Composer 6.5.4.2 [view my complete system specs]
  • Mon, Jul 1 2013 10:37 PM In reply to

    • planetfiber
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    Re: XDCAM and HDV project

    Hi,

    Ok, maybe I wasn't very clear on what to expect (I am not very clear on that aspect, that's why).

    So what I think is the path, once we have our final sequence, would be to:

    1.- Separate the frame rates, one sequence with 29.97, one with 23.98, keeping the timecode.

    2.- Export the 23.98 sequence from its respective project in its native frame rate.

    3.- Take the 23.98 sequence and add a pull-down to 29.97, (via compressor?)

    4.- Re-import it in the 1080i/59.94 project and add it to the 29.97 only timeline

    5.- Export it as 29.97 for color correction.


    Would this be the right way?

    Any other thoughts on the matter would be highly appreciated.

    Cheers,

    PF

     

    Mac Pro Quad Core 2.66 Ghz, 16 Gb Ram, Avid Media Composer 6.5.2 iMac 27"13,2, 16 Gb Ram, Avid Media Composer 6.5.4.2 [view my complete system specs]
  • Tue, Jul 2 2013 3:21 PM In reply to

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    Re: XDCAM and HDV project

    Anyone?

    Bueller?

     

    Bueller?

    Mac Pro Quad Core 2.66 Ghz, 16 Gb Ram, Avid Media Composer 6.5.2 iMac 27"13,2, 16 Gb Ram, Avid Media Composer 6.5.4.2 [view my complete system specs]
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