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    Copy/paste frame flex settings between clips in the timeline?

    I'm using frame flex to punch in on a 4K interview to create a virtual CU. I can't seem to drag my closeup settings to a bin and apply them to other clips in the timeline. Am I missing something? Is there a way to copy/paste frame flex settings between clips?

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    Re: Copy/paste frame flex settings between clips in the timeline?

    Not as such - Frame Flex doesn't play by the same rules.

    You can transfer the settings from one Frame Flex to another by right-clicking in the Effect Editor, choosing 'Copy Values at Position' and then and pasting the result into the next clip.

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    Re: Copy/paste frame flex settings between clips in the timeline?

    Thanks Mikey, that's brilliant!

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  • Fri, May 13 2016 1:25 PM In reply to

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    Re: Copy/paste frame flex settings between clips in the timeline?

    MikeyB:
    You can transfer the settings from one Frame Flex to another by right-clicking in the Effect Editor, choosing 'Copy Values at Position' and then and pasting the result into the next clip

    mmmhh this is the general workflow, but in detail, I found it a bit more complex, due to some "strange behaviour" of MC (8.5.2)

    right-click in the Effect Editor, choose 'Copy Values at Position'

    move to next clip, paste -> this creates a keyframe (you may want to keep or delete)

    then , you MUST "nudge" one of the parameters, say the size, otherwise nothing happens !

    Now, if you want to apply this technnique to multiple clips, you have to repeat the above sequence each time, including the 'Copy Values at Position', because in my experience, this clipboard data seem to be volatile (perhaps cleared as soon as I delete the kf created with the paste here above?); in addition, I discovered that I have to close the effect editor after each modified clip to 'commit' the changes (instead of leaving the effect editor open and click on the next clip to be modified), otherwise the FF effect is NOT reflected in the record monitor and will NOT render (but when I open the effect editor, the modified parameters are still there !).

    All in all this makes this whole sequence a bit more time-consuming than hoped, especially for long sequences with dozens (if not hundreds) of clips with FF effects

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  • Fri, May 13 2016 2:25 PM In reply to

    Re: Copy/paste frame flex settings between clips in the timeline?

    Isn't it easier to select all the masterclips you want to do the zoom on in a bin. With them all selected go to source settings and Frame flex. Apply the required zoom in. Then apply and exit. The refresh the sequence to ripple those changes to the clips in the timeline. You can then tweak the frameflex on each clip as required.

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  • Fri, May 13 2016 2:55 PM In reply to

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    Re: Copy/paste frame flex settings between clips in the timeline?

    You're absolutely right, but in this case, it's a long multicam sequence: the [many] clips to be modified belong to a single master clip (a 4k fixed camera AMA clip, where a common set of FF parameters have indeed already been set - a small rotation correction); in the edited timeline, each small clip from that single master needs individual P&S correction, but often a copy from a clip FF effect and paste to a group of subsequent clips is useful (identical stage scene -> identical P&S): that's what I'm trying to "optimize", speed-wise.

    In any case, I find it strange that a "commit" has to be performed twice:

    - once when pasting the values (nudging a parameter)

    - once to effectively apply the settings by explicitly leaving the effect editor

    Hopefully these two steps, which are perhaps specific to 8.5.2, will be unnecessary in a subsequent patch...

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    Re: Copy/paste frame flex settings between clips in the timeline?

    Has there been any improvements in storing Frameflex settings from clip to clip?

    The "Copy Values" workaround works 1 of out 5 times for me and results in unpredictable behavior (the values don't copy or paste); it's also very tedious when you have 30-60 photo moves in a sequence. If you can save a timewarp in a bin, shouldn't we be able to save Frameflex settings in a bin?

    I'd love to have a bin full of stock motion presets when working with pictures.

    Also, there is definitely some flakiness as to whether or not a Frameflex move or resize will actually "take". Many times, I'll have to Open the Effect editor--> click the source monitor, click the record monitor --> hit Y and then magically the Frameflex settings will be obeyed by the Timeline.

    That being said, for a very fast photo workflow - Frameflexing photos imported as 4K media in a 1080P project is way faster than the third party "link to original" workflows, albiet the third party plugins result in better image quality and allow for motion blur. 

    I'm currently on 8.6.5, gonna try 8.8 and see if things have improved.

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  • Mon, Mar 6 2017 4:26 PM In reply to

    Re: Copy/paste frame flex settings between clips in the timeline?

    I can save you the trouble...other than the addition of rotation, not much has improved with FF, which is a shame.

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  • Fri, Sep 1 2017 3:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: Copy/paste frame flex settings between clips in the timeline?

    BenoitM:

    [...] a "commit" has to be performed twice:

    - once when pasting the values (nudging a parameter)

    - once to effectively apply the settings by explicitly leaving the effect editor

    Hopefully these two steps, which are perhaps specific to 8.5.2, will be unnecessary in a subsequent patch...

    FWIW, the first "commit" step (nudging a parameter) is still required in 8.8.5 when copying FramFlex KF values from clip to clip.

    Apparently it is no longer necessary to leave the effect editor when jumping to the next clip

     

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  • Tue, Mar 12 2019 1:35 PM In reply to

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    Re: Copy/paste frame flex settings between clips in the timeline?

    BenoitM:

    FWIW, the first "commit" step (nudging a parameter) is still required in 8.8.5 when copying FramFlex KF values from clip to clip.

    Copying Frameflex params from clip to clip is still too tedious because of this necessary 'nudge' step in 18.12.1....Wondering if this is on the todo list for an upcoming release ?

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