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  • Tue, Dec 19 2017 5:40 AM

    Pan Zoom Imported Stills... Relink?

    I had to move the location of a bunch of HiRez stills used inside Pan Zoom effects. Does Relinking a Sequence allow any Pan Zoom effects to re-connect to those stills’ new SorcePath location? 

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  • Tue, Dec 19 2017 9:38 AM In reply to

    Re: Pan Zoom Imported Stills... Relink?

    No you ghave to go into each pan and zoom effect and repoint it to the new source file. Hopefully you will have a guide pictire as the effect doesn't indicate the expected file name or path.

    If you get really stuck I know a workaround to locate that information.

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  • Tue, Dec 19 2017 2:04 PM In reply to

    Re: Pan Zoom Imported Stills... Relink?

    Thanks Pat, I was afraid of that. It really is kind of shocking that the effect editor does not retain at least the original (now changed) SourcePath.

    i was able to get that original info, clip by clip, by running a Sequence Report and examining the resulting Summary Text file... what was your workaround?

    (please move this whole thread to PC Forum, if possible, thanks!)

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  • Tue, Dec 19 2017 10:18 PM In reply to

    Re: Pan Zoom Imported Stills... Relink?

    Thread moved to PC.

    FWIW Not a solution for your current position but as a big user of P&Z I have always imported all stills at low res into a Pan and Zoom bin. Then make the edits using these proxie res clips and add the P&Z effect.   This allows me to reference the used clip name in the timeline at any time.  Saving a P&Z bin layout with Clip name and Source Filepath makes the Matchframe and Find bin combo a quick data tracking tool. Batch re-importing the Pan and Zoom bin allows me to change the Source path for the proxy images used in the timeline before adding the P&Z effect and linking to the full res graphic.   

    The initial import adds a little time at the start but has saved me far more time than this throughout the years of using this workflow.

  • Wed, Dec 20 2017 12:06 AM In reply to

    Re: Pan Zoom Imported Stills... Relink?

    AndrewAction:

    Thread moved to PC.

    FWIW Not a solution for your current position but as a big user of P&Z I have always imported all stills at low res into a Pan and Zoom bin. Then make the edits using these proxie res clips and add the P&Z effect.   This allows me to reference the used clip name in the timeline at any time.  Saving a P&Z bin layout with Clip name and Source Filepath makes the Matchframe and Find bin combo a quick data tracking tool. Batch re-importing the Pan and Zoom bin allows me to change the Source path for the proxy images used in the timeline before adding the P&Z effect and linking to the full res graphic.   

    The initial import adds a little time at the start but has saved me far more time than this throughout the years of using this workflow.

    Thanks for those suggestions, I like ‘em. And gee how I’d like to pick your Pan&Zoon brain, regarding ant tips you may have doing A-B-C camera Moves, getting a decent Ease Out -Ease In with a totally curvy and smooth pivot around the “B” point.

    Also, I was thinking you would have an informed opinion on which filter is usually best...

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  • Wed, Dec 20 2017 12:56 AM In reply to

    Re: Pan Zoom Imported Stills... Relink?

    Telegram!:
    tips you may have doing A-B-C camera Moves
    First thought I would be to make your A-B-C by first making your A to B  correctly timed on the full clip P&Z. Then add a KF 1 frame later. Use Add edit at this point to split the clip. Make the B to C move on the "new" clip. 

    I like having a bin with several named Pan and Zoom effects saved in it.  This way I can can set things like View Source or Target, Initial KF IO linear or ease in and ease out, render quality etc and just drag the appropriate saved effect to the next clip.  A draw back is the saved effect opens with the image that it had when it was saved so remember to make the first thing you do is to change to required image.

  • Wed, Dec 20 2017 1:39 AM In reply to

    Re: Pan Zoom Imported Stills... Relink?

    Very Zen. So in a nutshell, you build complex moves with a series of A/B two KF moves...

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  • Wed, Dec 20 2017 2:13 AM In reply to

    Re: Pan Zoom Imported Stills... Relink?

    Yup   Mostly it saves me from trying to outsmart myself. Wink

  • Wed, Dec 20 2017 3:41 AM In reply to

    Re: Pan Zoom Imported Stills... Relink?

    I'll try to remember those smart words. 

    Now I am afraid to ask: how you deal with stabilizing clips that only shake in the middle... or back-time a Timewarp.

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  • Thu, Jan 4 2018 8:47 PM In reply to

    Re: Pan Zoom Imported Stills... Relink?

    I need to Crop out a white border that surrounds an image file I want to use Pan Zoom FX on. 

    I don’t see any Effect Editor tool to do it (unlike 3DWarp’s Crop). This particular file is Tall & Narrow, so I will use Background Video to achieve sidebars.

    What Avid-based method or technique (if any), do you use to include a static or dynamic crop during an Avid Pan Zoom? 

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  • Thu, Jan 4 2018 9:26 PM In reply to

    Re: Pan Zoom Imported Stills... Relink?

    If you are having the black bars constant then make a black mask with the centre as an alpha channel in Photoshop. Put the mask graphic on the layer above the P&Z.
    I do not use Animatte but you may well be able to create the same mask with Animatte.

    For variable bars create full screen black graphic media. Edit this on to 2 layers above the P&Z . Crop one almost to the right side and the other almost to the left side.
    Or edit the black onto the layer above the P&Z and key frame a horizontal centre opening wipe.

  • Thu, Jan 4 2018 10:22 PM In reply to

    Re: Pan Zoom Imported Stills... Relink?

    Thanks Andrew.

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  • Tue, Feb 13 2018 10:14 PM In reply to

    Re: Pan Zoom Imported Stills... Relink?

    Just a follow-up and some more questions. I'm learning more this week about PZ and KF-ing than I ever have...

    I started with a 2 Keyframe Pan Zoom for a 5 second move where KF1 = the tif photo file with its white border on all 4 sides, centered in a 1920x1080 frame. KF2 has it zoomed in quite far so that the top and bottom white borders are off-screen but not zoomed fully-- leaving the Left and Right white borders visible.

    That PZ clip is on V2 and V1 has a solid Green background-- like a green screen.

    The big discovery, after searching forum archives last night: I alt+dragged the Blend/3D Warp FX onto the PZ clip and was then able to CROP the 4 white borders to reveal only the photo and the Green on V1. I keyframed as you suggested above.

    Much thanks to Kenton (!) who wrote long ago that this is the way to do it and I can see that the output is still PZ quality.. it looks very good (to me, on an SDI bdcast monitor) even when I added a slight Rotation from inside the 3D warp.

    So now I have a desire to save (export) my perfect frameless PZ work as a key-able file.

    I *thought* MC does not provide a way to create an Alpha Matte File (except as a PSD Export from Marquee-- but I cannot figure out how to Crop an imported Image in there, it does seem impossible).

    What are my best options, if any?

    I dont have Avid FX (hate it) AE (wish I did), PhotoShop or Boris. I do have Ignite FX and maybe I should have just tried to learn my shareware GIMP program to crop the original file and do the PZ move in Marquee.... exporting a PSD with Alpha.

    http://community.avid.com/forums/p/56115/313941.aspx#313941

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