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  • Fri, Apr 17 2020 6:04 PM

    Is there a better way to add a control point in a curves adjustment?

    Is there a better way to add a control point in a curves adjustment than clicking in the box? Every time you add a point it is so inaccurate that it moves and knocks the correction out which then needs readjusting.  I just want to add a point without it moving! 

    Andi

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  • Thu, Apr 23 2020 2:03 PM In reply to

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    Re: Is there a better way to add a control point in a curves adjustment?

    To the  best of my knowledge, the answer is no. There are no modifiers (e.g. shift-click, alt-click, etc.) that changes the behavior. The point is placed at the tip of the arrow, but the selection range is a couple of pixels wider around the point. That's why the control point moves; it's placed at the arrow tip even when the tip is not directly on the line.

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  • Thu, Apr 23 2020 3:21 PM In reply to

    Re: Is there a better way to add a control point in a curves adjustment?

    Yeah, thought as much. Honestly Symphony is a joke.  I really don't think it's ok to just leave it with no improvements for so long. The shape-based colour correction that was so hyped is one of the worst implementations of a feature I can imagine.  The whole system needs ripping out and redesigning from the ground up. Same with the stabiliser.  I don't think the argument that Avid is just for editing stands up at all. Users need to be able to do more and more and the fact that I can't easily pull a decent secondary within Avid is just very very poor. Anyway, rant over. 

    Andi

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  • Sat, Apr 25 2020 4:52 PM In reply to

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    Re: Is there a better way to add a control point in a curves adjustment?

    The only way I've found of doing this is when you use the Avid/Euphonix Artist Color panel.

    The way you do this with the panel is by using the one of the three rings to move a new point up or down a curve. Once you get to the spot you want to add a control point, you press the left R key next to the ring, which inserts the point.

    Since the Artist Color is EOL, you'll find you can occasionally get these fairly cheaply on Ebay. The irony with this panel is that it works beautifully in Resolve or Baselight Editions, but is quite 'laggy' in Symphony. It's something Avid never really fixed.

    My advice would be to forget Symphony and invest in the Baselight Editions plugin, which is the only way of getting professional colour grading inside MC.

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  • Sat, Apr 25 2020 5:05 PM In reply to

    Re: Is there a better way to add a control point in a curves adjustment?

    Thanks Bruno. Yeah, I'll be using Baselight in the future, it just saddens me that Avid has neglected this area of it's product when it is something that should be tightly integrated and powerful.  Onlining in Avid is painful sometimes.

    Andi

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  • Sat, Apr 25 2020 7:35 PM In reply to

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    Re: Is there a better way to add a control point in a curves adjustment?

    I was thinking about getting the symphony option but it seems it may not be worth it. Yes it seriously is time for Avid to improve its CC. 

  • Sat, Apr 25 2020 8:59 PM In reply to

    Re: Is there a better way to add a control point in a curves adjustment?

    Dew seriously don't bother, it is rubbish for anything other than basic corrections and even then it's not so great. The only benefit it has that I can see is the source side corrections which allow you to use tape name or clip name etc to apply corrections to multiple clips at once. That's it. Secondaries are rubbish, shape based correction is a joke, scopes and interface are clunky and inaccurate, the list goes on.  It shouldn't even be an optional extra, it's so bad it should just be thrown in with regular MC.  I'll definitely be getting a Baselight Editions license once I'm done with this series.  Honestly, even if they just had one programmer whose only job was to work on the CC component, we would have seen more improvements.  I don't get why it's so neglected.

    Andi

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