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  • Wed, Oct 27 2010 11:26 PM

    Need More Audio Gain?

    Hello,

    I'm new to Avid Media Composer and have a probably relatively simple question. I'm using MC5 and most of the clips have quiet audio that needs more than 12DB of gain boost to reach an adequate level. I came from Premiere Pro CS4 which I would always right click and choose Normalize Audio before doing any gain bumping this would always allow me to get the audio to proper levels. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks!

     

    Jared

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  • Wed, Oct 27 2010 11:33 PM In reply to

    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

    I use track-doubling.  Cut additional, identical, tracks into your timeline.  Each track adds approx 2db, even before raising the gain.

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  • Wed, Oct 27 2010 11:34 PM In reply to

    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

    Go to Audio suite and from the drop down list choose Gain then edit it.

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  • Wed, Oct 27 2010 11:40 PM In reply to

    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

    sverkalo:
    Go to Audio suite and from the drop down list choose Gain
    Or Normalise

  • Thu, Oct 28 2010 12:02 AM In reply to

    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

    Thanks Everyone! Found several new tools that I hadn't yet discovered and I was amazed at the speedy response from all of you. I tried the Normalize and Gain drop downs from the Audio Sweet and they seemed to work very well. I'll also try the re-cutting option and see how that works and may come to like that even better. That brings me to yet another I'm sure simple question:

    How do I get the same A1 A2 or V1 Media copy then pasted to say A3 A4 and V2? In CS4 I would copy then lock the tracks with media to prevent overwrite and the paste into open tracks. Like I said I'm sure its simple, but when I tried copy then locking and pasting I recieved a message saying read only. Thanks.

     

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  • Thu, Oct 28 2010 12:23 AM In reply to

    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

    Jared Scheffler:
    How do I get the same A1 A2 or V1 Media copy then pasted to say A3 A4 and V2?

    Simple. Load the same source clip you used for A1, A2, and V1 and patch (click on the track button and draw an arrow) from the source side of the timeline to A3, A4, and V2 on the record side of the timeline. So patch A1 to A3, A2 to A4, and V1 to V2.

     

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  • Thu, Oct 28 2010 12:39 AM In reply to

    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

    And personally, I never "double up" audio clips. You can simply use the mixer tool and pan the track to MID (pan window at the bottom of the slider - ALT click on it), then apply the gain effect from audio suite and adjust to your liking. That will put the single clip's audio on both channels and boost the gain at the same time.

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  • Thu, Oct 28 2010 12:40 AM In reply to

    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

    Good to know.

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  • Thu, Oct 28 2010 12:42 AM In reply to

    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

    I copy and paste the clips.

    I never understood why the pasted clip goes always to the same track

    that is copied from.

    There is still some work to be done on MC's timeline.

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  • Thu, Oct 28 2010 12:51 AM In reply to

    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

    When I want to copy and paste a clip, I mark it and use CTRL + ALT + c to load the clip in the source monitor and simply edit it back into the timeline wherever I want it, either as an insert or overwrite, to any track I desire. Also works great to copy an entire marked region of multiple layers to the source monitor as well for placement elsewhere in the timeline. A good way to get around the restriction of Avid not allowing a sequence to be edited back into itself. Also, a good workaround for the inability to match back to precomputes.

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  • Thu, Oct 28 2010 12:54 AM In reply to

    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

    That too ok.

    But why a copy paste not working as I wanted to.

    I need to copy the clip from V1 and to paste it at V4.

    Thre is no way of doing this at timeline.

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  • Thu, Oct 28 2010 3:15 AM In reply to

    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

    You guys are helping me a ton already. Thanks a Bunch! The video tutorials can only cover so much.

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  • Thu, Oct 28 2010 9:59 AM In reply to

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    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

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  • Thu, Oct 28 2010 10:25 PM In reply to

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    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

    The trouble with having edited for a while is that you can miss tips and tricks.  I knew about the additive effect of audio keyframing, I didn't know about varying plot size.  Thanks for posting, JohnnyReboot.  And thanks to Benjamin Hershleder.

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  • Thu, Oct 28 2010 10:38 PM In reply to

    Re: Need More Audio Gain?

    sverkalo:
    Thre is no way of doing this at timeline.

    It would be nice if the paste respected a new track selection. I think Fcp does this.

    My work around is to copy. Move the original selection to the new track and paste back in to the original track.

    Though I agree that loading the clipboard contents in to the source monitor is a more elegant and versatile solution.

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