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  • Thu, Dec 8 2011 1:29 AM

    • Kevin Thompson
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    Making NTSC files of a Music Video

    Hello,

    I will be shooting a clip for an Australian band at 25fps. The band is going to the USA in May for a publicity tour.

    I have tested various processing for conversion to various other framerates using Sorenson, and am happy with the results.

    I would like advice from US users as to what I should give the band to take with them, such that will have as few issues as possible and be able to hand over something that will be readily playable by regional/local broadcasters.

    Should I give them a NTSC DVD, and a Blu-ray at 59.94i?

    Should I give them a 24P Blu-ray?

    What would be recommended to make their trip to the states as smooth as possible?

     

    Thank you

    Kevin

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  • Thu, Dec 8 2011 1:44 AM In reply to

    • jwrl
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    Re: Making NTSC files of a Music Video

    Not in the US, but speaking from experiemce: you can probably count on the fingers of one hand the number of PAL DVD players in the US.  Make your DVD presenter NTSC and you'll be able to play it anywhere in the world.  As for Blu-Ray - I usually supply 24P.  So far everyone seems happy.

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  • Thu, Dec 8 2011 1:50 AM In reply to

    Re: Making NTSC files of a Music Video

    John's right about the scarcity of PAL playback here. NTSC DVD and 59.94i Blue Ray should do nicely anywhere in the States.

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  • Thu, Dec 8 2011 1:53 AM In reply to

    • jwrl
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    Re: Making NTSC files of a Music Video

    Following on from the above, to get a really good result you might like to try the following.  Since you're talking Blu-Ray I'm assuming that your master cut is HD.

    So create a new HD project in Avid at 24P.  Import your 25p/50i master into that project.  Go through it on a clip by clip basis and promote the speed override that Avid has placed there and promote it to FluidFilm progressive.  Render.  It will take a while, but it will be much better than the Sorenson timebase conversion.

    Now check for any odd warping artifacts on frames as a result of the FluidFilm conversion and replace them with the nearest matching single frame from your original.  Typically this doesn't take long, and I usually put them on V2.  If you don't occasionally you'll need to re-render your FluidFilm effect.

    Do a mixdown and export that to Sorenson.  Produce your 24p Blu-Ray master and your NTSC downres from that.  It will look as close to NTSC originals as you can get.

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  • Thu, Dec 8 2011 1:55 AM In reply to

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    Re: Making NTSC files of a Music Video

    Larry posted while I was typing.  On his advice in the above guide replace 24P with 30P.

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  • Mon, Mar 19 2012 5:15 PM In reply to

    • Kevin Thompson
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    Re: Making NTSC files of a Music Video

    Thanks for all that Fluidfilm works well in my tests ..  the clips are cut .. waiting for some remixed audio.

    The band will be playing at rocklahoma.

    This is a great community

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  • Mon, Mar 19 2012 5:27 PM In reply to

    Re: Making NTSC files of a Music Video

    You're quite welcome, Kevin. We're always glad to help out.Yes

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  • Tue, Mar 20 2012 12:21 AM In reply to

    • jwrl
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    Re: Making NTSC files of a Music Video

    Glad to help, Kevin.

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