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  • Sat, Feb 12 2011 2:27 AM

    MC5 is a Ferrari

    What I mean is, it is very powerful, but if you are not careful, you can get yourself into serious trouble. What I have learned that is if you are trying something new or newish, DO NOT just click on something or press a keystroke because it seems intuitive. Stop and research the correct way to accomplish your goal using the documentation and/or Avid forums. Especially with effects. This can be annoying, but over time, you will become a true power user and the software will reward you with excellent results.

    With many programs, you can just wing it and press undo if things go awry. That is a bad approach for Media Composer. I have found it very easy to fall into a trap by being impatient and "taking a chance" on a mouse click or a command. When I slow down and do the proper research, everything proceeds well, and the program is fun and effective.

     

     

  • Sat, Feb 12 2011 3:56 AM In reply to

    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    Great post AOC, and I generally agree with you about depending on undo to take shots in the dark. But there are two instances where undo is both extremely helpful and extremely useful.

    The first is when you know what you're doing, but you accidentally press the wrong key or button, usually a neighboring one to the one you were after - also known as the "Aw, crap!" maneuver (some of us use a stronger word).

    The other is when you've decided you don't like the direction you're going creatively, and you want to retreat to an earlier point in your timeline and rebuild differently. For that, you have 32 levels of undo and redo available from the edit menu > undo/redo list, which tracks your keystrokes or button pushes and lists the last 32 functions you have performed. If you use this menu option instead of CTRL + Z on the keyboard, you'll learn what function you just performed -kind of an instant glossary so it's a good way to get familiar with MC terminology, and to get a quick reference when there's an icon you're unfamiliar with.

    The one big bugaboo about the "list of 32" is it's gone as soon as you close the bin that your sequence is in. So it's only useful on a live timeline.

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  • Sat, Feb 12 2011 9:27 AM In reply to

    • luca.mg
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    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    Larry, with MC 5 the undo level is gone from 40 (maybe 32 is NewsCutter?) to 100 IIRC, except for that I do agree with Your post, while as an italian I think I know better about Ferraris: very powerful and noisy, very dangerous in the wrong hands, but most of all very fragile, in this regard MC is much more unbreakable.

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  • Sun, Feb 13 2011 12:18 PM In reply to

    • RADIUS
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    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    Media composer 5, for me, is a Tir going in bottleneck.

    With Avid Liquid I complete a wedding project in two day: in MC5 in a week....

     

     

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  • Sun, Feb 13 2011 2:52 PM In reply to

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    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    RADIUS:
    With Avid Liquid I complete a wedding project in two day

    How many years have you been "driving" with Liquid?

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    RADIUS:
    in MC5 in a week....

    How many years have you been "driving" with MC?

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    Not so surprising that you are driving Liquid quicker!

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  • Sun, Feb 13 2011 3:54 PM In reply to

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    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    Yeah, I bet for me it would take at least a week to do the same job in Liquid. Obviously it can do the work more quickly, as you attest, but because I don't know how to use it properly, I would take me longer.

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  • Sun, Feb 13 2011 4:13 PM In reply to

    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    conleec:
    Yeah, I bet for me it would take at least a week to do the same job in Liquid. Obviously it can do the work more quickly, as you attest, but because I don't know how to use it properly, I would take me longer.

    That's the thing, though.  You'd think that having never used Liquid before it might take you a few weeks or months to get good at it, but it doesn't.  In fact, I've never used Liquid (or even heard of it before Avid bought it), but just being in the aura cast by Liquid users on the internet has convinced me beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is superior in every possible way to every other editing solution that has ever existed or will ever be invented throughout history.

    Because we all love a good car analogy (this thread is a perfect example), if Liquid were a car, it would be the fastest, most beautiful, most reliable, most efficient car in the world.  Everyone would drive it, there would be no accidents, and the car would emit no pollution, but rather it would run on the excess carbon in the atmosphere, and emit gold and diamonds from the exhaust.

    In short, Liquid was the key to the future of the human race, and Avid foolishly threw it away.

    ciao,
    Carl 

     

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  • Sun, Feb 13 2011 4:32 PM In reply to

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    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    give up on liquid IT IS NOT COMING BACK !!!!! I too switched from premiere pro a few years ago and there were things I thought I could not do without last week I just cut a scene for a feature trailer on pp cs 5 as a test 

    and it worked well but it was like working with u matics I could not wait to cut the rest of the trailer on my avid as it was 5 times faster  repeat 5 times faster than pp cs5 and not one lock up and i was using avchd files to boot some times the grass is only greener in your memorey embrace the learning curve you will be happier in the long run!!! really

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  • Sun, Feb 13 2011 4:34 PM In reply to

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    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    also mc is more like a corvette z06 blistering fast great looking built like a rock and american made

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  • Sun, Feb 13 2011 4:36 PM In reply to

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    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    but I still want a enzo

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  • Sun, Feb 13 2011 4:43 PM In reply to

    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    Some people want a Corvette. Others want a Ferrari. I say: Why can't we have both?

     

  • Sun, Feb 13 2011 5:54 PM In reply to

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    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    Good point, Douglas!

    Tomorrow, when I am expert in MC, I think I will not be as fast as in Liquid. Liquid is more fast then MC. in may operations.

    I want MC 6,fast and easy.  It will be so?

    Bye,  Douglas. Your tutorial are very useful.

     

     

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  • Sun, Feb 13 2011 6:08 PM In reply to

    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    There is nothing really to say about MC 6, as officially it does not yet exist, and any speculation about Avid future products, features or releases is prohibited on these Forums. Please read the terms of use carefully. Thank you for your cooperation on this matter.

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  • Sun, Feb 13 2011 6:12 PM In reply to

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    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    Someone could probably make money selling product start-up splash screens that auto increment versions ever 6 months. Direct deposit accepted.

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  • Sun, Feb 13 2011 6:17 PM In reply to

    Re: MC5 is a Ferrari

    Hi,

    RADIUS:
    when I am expert in MC, I think I will not be as fast as in Liquid. Liquid is more fast then MC. in may operations.

    Bollocks.  Give me something to cut on a Media Composer and you edit the same thing on Liquid and I will beat you like a drum.  :)

    ciao,
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