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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 5:51 AM

    • jiggyjay
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    FCP X

    Looks like apple just announced the new version of FCP labeled X!

    New Features:
    New GUI

    Background Rendering

    64bit

    Magnetic Timeline

    Autosync of Audio/Video like Pluraleyes

    No transcoding

    All for $299!! Of course that's only for the editor! I'm sure the price would still be at $999 for everything else!

     

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    http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/12/apple-unveils-64-bit-final-cut-pro-x/

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 12:11 PM In reply to

    • switthaus
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    Re: FCP X

    it's beta

    it's not shipping until June

    it will be buggy as hell for the first few releases

    no mention that I see that the other Pro Apps will be available.  Maybe Apple will roll what they think is needed tin FCPX and kill the rest.

    It will change the game again.

     

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 12:33 PM In reply to

    • Joe M
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    Re: FCP X

    From a pricing standpoint this could be major game changer for the competition.  A lot depends upon what exactly is included in FCPX.

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 1:11 PM In reply to

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    Re: FCP X

    It looks to me like there's a few interesting things in there and then there's a few questionable things in there.  Not sure if this fits the bill for everyday working professional editors or is more a beefed up/upgraded version of imovie.  Hard to tell at this point.

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 2:17 PM In reply to

    • conleec
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    Re: FCP X

    I've heard rumblings that FCP X doesn't include the ability to capture from tape. If that turns out to be fact, then I think Apple's shooting themselves in the foot with this release. Lots of questions, and not too many answers at this point.

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 5:09 PM In reply to

    Re: FCP X

    I've been following the Editblog on this. Background rendering, background ingest, as well as all of the media organization-related features seem like they will help a lot. It's great that the built-in color correction tools have been beefed up. The ability to link sound effects, music, etc to each other on the timeline looks like it might come in handy. The ability to slip audio by sample and not just frames is cool. The keyframing on the timeline, the ability to adjust parts of an image, all look very useful.

    It's great that FCP can now (alledgedly) handle multiple codecs, resolutions, and frame rates on the timeline, though apparently this was only mentioned, not demoed.

    My real question is editing itself. There's no viewer. How does that work? How do you do multicam editing with only one monitor? How can make good choices in selecting an incoming shot when you can't see the outgoing shot at the same time?

    I'm not sure what to make of this magnetic timeline. I hope it can be turned off. It looks like it could be a double-edged sword. However, given how many FCP editors lose their *** over getting out of sync, I guess that's responding to the user base. It's one of those things I'll have to try for myself to see if I like it.

    No word yet on the fate of the rest of FC Studio, tape ingest, how filters/plugins work, XML/EDL, etc.

    Walter Biscardi has a nice post about it

     

    Oh, and is anyone else tired of hearing the overused phrased "GAME CHANGER?" Seriously, Apple, Avid, and Adobe: please find a new cliche. You're starting to sound like sports stars who only know how to say "We just gotta take it to another level" and "we gotta play more physical."

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 7:01 PM In reply to

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    Re: FCP X

    As I've said before, being a professional editor and assistant editor, I hope for the best but plan as though the apocalypse is going to rain down on my project.  That being said, I hope that this new version of fcp is not what it looks to be, an upscale version of imovie aimed at people who have no editing experience at a pro level.  And, in case you're wondering what I mean by pro, it's a person who has the ability to edit then deliver a product based on someone else's delivery specifications, and the ability to deliver it again a year down the line by bringing all of the media back online.

    I've found a recording of the announcement and I've watched a little bit of it, the rest I'll watch later.  But, so far, the parts I've seen have the guys from Apple talking about the features in a way that is aimed at non-professionals.  "You can move something down in the timeline without destroying it, and isn't that what we all want to do, move something without destroying our timeline."  I don't know about you guys, but I know how to move things around in the timeline without messing up my edit.  And compound clips, I just watched the explanation, isn't that how their nested sequences has been supposed to work since they intrododuced them years ago.  Wow, inline precision editor, I hope this means I can finally see both sides of my edit updating when I'm in JKL trim mode.

    Ok, call me a pessimist, but it sounds like they fixed a whole bunch of things, named them something else and are introducing them as "new and innovative" features.

    Yeah, call me a pessimist, I'm cool with that.  But this software is not aimed at pros, we are now incidental to what Apple wants to do.

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 7:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: FCP X

    We have always been incindental to what Apple wants to do.  We are all just living in their world!

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 7:14 PM In reply to

    Re: FCP X

    gumbaedit:
    in case you're wondering what I mean by pro, it's a person who has the ability to edit then deliver a product based on someone else's delivery specifications, and the ability to deliver it again a year down the line by bringing all of the media back online.

    gumbaedit:
    I don't know about you guys, but I know how to move things around in the timeline without messing up my edit.

    Both of those made me smile.  Thanks, Rex.  Smile

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 8:30 PM In reply to

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    Re: FCP X

    Horrors! The Smart Tool Virus has now gone cross species!

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 8:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: FCP X

     

    gumbaedit:
    But this software is not aimed at pros, we are now incidental to what Apple wants to do.

    I always love the definitions of "pros" that are thrown out on discussions like this.  Is only Hollywood "pro"?  Or broadcast only "pro"?  So, if you use FCP 7.0 are you a pro or not?  And if you do the same thing on FCPX suddenly you are not a "Pro"?  About 80% of my 2010 revenue was doing FCP work (most post houses around here switched over).  Am I not a "Pro" because of that?  What about all thos post companies that have gone FCP...not "pro"?  Please.  But, I am on an Avid job tomorrow...guess I am safe! :-)

    After just a brief sneal peek at a software we can tell that "this is not for Pros"?  Sounds like whistling in the dark to me.  Let's wait until June and see where this discussion brings us.

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 9:10 PM In reply to

    Re: FCP X

    Don't you know, pros do one of two things. Cut DNxHD 36 and make EDL's, or work full rez and print to tape. If you do anything else, you're not a pro. Oh and if you're a pro, you know what a vision mixer is and still kind love them.

    Everyone else is a dabbler whose business Avid does not need. Oh, if you hate the idea of built in scopes, you are pro too.

    Also, oddly, anything above 1080p is not pro. And Prores 4:4:4:4 is not pro, even though the Arri Alexa (which is pro) records to Prores.

    The AF100 is not nearly pro, even though it is 1080p. VariCams are pro.

    .R3D isn't pro, but HDCAM and SR are VERY PRO. Decks are very pro. Firewire is not. USB is Fisher-Price.

    RAID-0 is living dangerously pro. But backing up is also very pro.

    What all this means is that pros really don't need anything past MC 3.0. So, according to them, Avid has wasted two versions of development money.

    ... Of course this written in sarcasm Stick out tongue, but with a little truth in jest Embarrassed.

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 9:10 PM In reply to

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    Re: FCP X

    My nextdoor neighbor's kid cuts his dad's grass with a commercial grade Toro lawnmower and gets paid $20  a week to do it.  Does that make him a pro?  My dad has his own company and one of his mowers is not commercial grade, is he no longer a professional landscaper?

    I've always said that the tool does not make the professional, the ability to deliver quality and to specifications repeatedly does.  So, please.

    Based on the wording and the tone of the announcers, I don't believe that Apple is aiming at professional users (see my previous definition).  The key word being "aiming."  I said nothing about the quality of the tool, just Apple's intentions.

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 9:27 PM In reply to

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    Re: FCP X

    BobbyMurcerFan:

    Don't you know, pros do one of two things. Cut DNxHD 36 and make EDL's, or work full rez and print to tape. If you do anything else, you're not a pro. Oh and if you're a pro, you know what a vision mixer is and still kind love them.

    Everyone else is a dabbler whose business Avid does not need. Oh, if you hate the idea of built in scopes, you are pro too.

    Also, oddly, anything above 1080p is not pro. And Prores 4:4:4:4 is not pro, even though the Arri Alexa (which is pro) records to Prores.

    The AF100 is not nearly pro, even though it is 1080p. VariCams are pro.

    .R3D isn't pro, but HDCAM and SR are VERY PRO. Decks are very pro. Firewire is not. USB is Fisher-Price.

    RAID-0 is living dangerously pro. But backing up is also very pro.

    What all this means is that pros really don't need anything past MC 3.0. So, according to them, Avid has wasted two versions of development money.

    ... Of course this written in sarcasm Stick out tongue, but with a little truth in jest Embarrassed.

    thanks for the clarity!  I feel much better now...but I am still not sure if I am a "pro"!  Wink

     

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  • Wed, Apr 13 2011 10:07 PM In reply to

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    switthaus:
    but I am still not sure if I am a "pro"!

    Professional.

    Adjective
    1: worthy of or appropriate to a professional person; competent, skilful, or assured
    2:
    engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as an amateur

    Noun.
    1:  a person engaged or qualified in a profession.
    2:  a person engaged in a specified activity, especially a sport, as a main paid occupation rather than as a pastime.
    3:  a person competent or skilled in a particular activity.

    Any wiser now Scott? 

    Strange... I had started to think from the sarcasim Pro was now related to choice of tools or workflows.  Good to have the dictionary confirm that we can all have completely different opinions and still all be "Pro's"  Wink

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